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General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2011.09.05 19:18:00 -
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Hate to say 'I told you so' but when I ran my half-arsed campaign for the CSM it was precisely because I feared exactly this would happen.
When Mittens and his cronies moved en-masse to take over the CSM this was always going to happen, and it was bound to be used as a mechanism to try to compel CCP to make the game as Goony as possible.
The good news for smug armchair Generals like me is that I now get to watch Mittens' increasingly desperate attempts to blackmail CCP, and ride rough shod over empire players and those who don't see 0.0 territorial warfare as the be-all-and-end-all.
It's a shame that people like Trebor have been emasculated and steamrolled so quickly.
One thing that puzzles me, though, is that the Goons have attempted to smear, DDOS and threadnought for every single decision that didn't go their way already, so they don't really have any original approaches left. Maybe if they hadn't thrown their toys out of the pram countless times already we might have a CSM with some teeth.
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General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
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Posted - 2011.09.05 19:28:00 -
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 Originally by: The Mittani
There are two dimensions to CSMing, two levels of interaction with CCP.
At the most useful level you discuss upcoming gameplay with the game designers, chill folks like Soundwave who have their head on right and understand EVE. At this level the CSM has a lot of influence, and there's been no reason for us to "declare war" or "stick it to CCP" because these guys don't make the kind of decisions that result in team allocations; they do things that impact the players in FiS (they nerf supercaps, they Fix Lag, they create farms and fields).
They also already broadly agree with the CSM (which is not divided, but actually has pretty much a consensus of views about FiS) so it's not a very contentious relationship.
At the higher level, in dealing with upper management, things get ugly. Here there is little consensus. Here the calls are made to allocate teams to projects, and the CSM is not happy with what we see. However, our functional level of influence over business processes (as opposed to 'mere' FiS gameplay priorities) is an open question. FiS needs more resources allocated to it or EVE will stagnate, then reach a tipping point. The question is if the management will realize this before that tipping point is reached.
Anyway, my post was to GSF on goonfleet.com. We repost those on Kugu because they leak anyway. This is my first public statement on the matter.
Where's the dimension of CSMing where you liten to the playerbase rather than simply trying to force your personal idea of 'fun' and political agenda on the rest of us?
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General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
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Posted - 2011.09.05 19:33:00 -
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If you don't see the CSM role simply as an extension of your Goon leadership agenda then why did you choose to make your initial views known only to your colleagues on your alliance forum, rather than via the formal CSM channels?
It's not surprising, but it's disgusting none the less to see you being so overtly partial.
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General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
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Posted - 2011.09.05 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: General Windypops
Where's the dimension of CSMing where you liten to the playerbase rather than simply trying to force your personal idea of 'fun' and political agenda on the rest of us?
Show me where the "playerbase" in any way is united on what is fun.
Precisely why I feel passionately that the CSM should have been balanced rather than representing a single-interest cartel.
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General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
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Posted - 2011.09.05 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 05/09/2011 19:52:26
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: General Windypops
Where's the dimension of CSMing where you liten to the playerbase rather than simply trying to force your personal idea of 'fun' and political agenda on the rest of us?
Show me where the "playerbase" in any way is united on what is fun.
Precisely why I feel passionately that the CSM should have been balanced rather than representing a single-interest cartel.
which is why the election process in this game will never work. Unless you make voting mandatory upon log in, you will never get a larger group of players than the Goons voting at any one time for obvious reasons
Indeed. And when your only electorate is your own alliance membership then it's not surprising your own alliance forums are where you post your CSM updates.
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